>> i think the elections have cons 0 againsts and the electorate has chosen divided government. they expect compromise and expect it from both sides. i don't think republicans should move on tax increases without significant movement on entitlements. >> you want to get something in return but go ahead and offer it. and right now they're not offering it. >> in order to get something done, people expect to get something done. both sides have to come to the middle. elections have consequences. both sides are going to have to give. right now i think you need to see significant reform on entitlements. >> maggie, who should own the entitlement plan, though? i do feel like we are -- we know a plan will get done, right? there's a small deal that punts us and we have the debt ceiling, or there is the big deal that maybe actually provides some relief. the big deal, who should open the entitlement? you do it, mrmt. and they're going, whoa, whoa, whoa, i'm not having this fight with my own base. >> i think that's the problem, right? in terms of who should own it. neither side, and i think t